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Post Posted: 03-08-2020, 18:50:25 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

WoW Freakz spell link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=60103&&&&&&&&name=lava-lash
https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=197211&&&&&&&&name=fury-of-air
https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=193786&&&&&&&&name=rockbiter
https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=187874&&&&&&&&name=crash-lightning
https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=198736&&&&&&&&name=unleash-doom

Bug description: NONE OF THIS IS AFFECTED BY MASTERY .

Proof: Blizzard proof : https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/DJW2zCdR9vq6HkhZ#fight=3&&&&&&&&type=damage-done&&&&&&&&source=6 983 iLvl
another proof https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Cp29dYTHcrBjGKW8#fight=3&&&&&&&&type=damage-done&&&&&&&&source=30 975 iLvl
another https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Pm1fcGYhJH4Fyr6W#fight=4&&&&&&&&type=damage-done&&&&&&&&source=1 980ilvl


Proof from freakz (989 91 traits enhancement shaman)
https://imgur.com/a/tJxd1me ( 5:39 fight using NORMAL rotation)


While using hailstorm every spell that get increase from mastery is dealing way less damage



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Post Posted: 03-08-2020, 19:19:30 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

just as a side question, why would you use hailstorm - in any scenario it's inferior to hands/ring. It was ok when it procced stormbringer.
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Post Posted: 03-08-2020, 19:53:33 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Hi,hailstorm is best on this tier for bis char.This is the reason why you should use it.At this moment i hit 2,6mil rockbiter when i have hailstorm,from 5-5,5 with ancestral and every spell that got increase from mastery.I think from last nerf they did to hailstorm somehow they removed mastery increase .


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Post Posted: 03-08-2020, 23:09:28 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Your proofs are just logs from retail, I deleted your post 2 times already for not proving anything at all, but I'll give u a chance this time, try not to be toxic and find me legitemate proof. I'll even give you a hint, unequip a non legendary ring that has mastery on it and do a rockbiter, then equip it and do it again without any buffs like concordance etc, if it doesnt increase the damage its bugged and post a ss.


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Post Posted: 04-08-2020, 00:39:31 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

You can see in imgur post that i hit with 989ilvl and 91 traits for half the value it should,i can do the math if you want to.
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Post Posted: 04-08-2020, 03:13:39 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Even if the mastery works, he's still doing half the damage with more ilvl

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Post Posted: 04-08-2020, 07:17:39 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

florinflo99 wrote:
Hi,hailstorm is best on this tier for bis char.This is the reason why you should use it.At this moment i hit 2,6mil rockbiter when i have hailstorm,from 5-5,5 with ancestral and every spell that got increase from mastery.I think from last nerf they did to hailstorm somehow they removed mastery increase .


Literally no one on retail used hailstorm (wrist build maybe?) during 7.3.5, don't trust my words - open warcraft logs...

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Post Posted: 04-08-2020, 10:49:21 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

On retail, but here you are on freakz, you have to test every build, trust me, hailstorm is way better then swiftness but sometimes it bugs your character and you do half of the damage with mastery affected spells.
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Post Posted: 04-08-2020, 13:00:36 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

florinflo99 wrote:
On retail, but here you are on freakz, you have to test every build, trust me, hailstorm is way better then swiftness but sometimes it bugs your character and you do half of the damage with mastery affected spells.


I won't argue with you, you do what you consider. Just keep in mind that a few posts above you were comparing freakz spells to retail, now you're telling me "but here you are on freakz" - I don't see much consistency in what you're saying.

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Post Posted: 04-08-2020, 19:41:49 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Skillshot wrote:
florinflo99 wrote:
Hi,hailstorm is best on this tier for bis char.This is the reason why you should use it.At this moment i hit 2,6mil rockbiter when i have hailstorm,from 5-5,5 with ancestral and every spell that got increase from mastery.I think from last nerf they did to hailstorm somehow they removed mastery increase .


Literally no one on retail used hailstorm (wrist build maybe?) during 7.3.5, don't trust my words - open warcraft logs...


https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/5fgtfi/enh_shaman_talent_ancestral_swiftness_vs_hailstorm/

Literally everyone on retail USED hailstorm over ancestral swiftness, and that would be the case on freakz too if the abilities wouldn’t do half the damage for no reason.

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Post Posted: 04-08-2020, 19:54:02 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

mastery dont work 100% i think have a problem i put 15500 with mastery and the fire,frost or nature damage not increased.
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Post Posted: 04-08-2020, 20:38:27 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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florinflo99 wrote:
Hi,hailstorm is best on this tier for bis char.This is the reason why you should use it.At this moment i hit 2,6mil rockbiter when i have hailstorm,from 5-5,5 with ancestral and every spell that got increase from mastery.I think from last nerf they did to hailstorm somehow they removed mastery increase .


Literally no one on retail used hailstorm (wrist build maybe?) during 7.3.5, don't trust my words - open warcraft logs...


https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/5fgtfi/enh_shaman_talent_ancestral_swiftness_vs_hailstorm/

Literally everyone on retail USED hailstorm over ancestral swiftness, and that would be the case on freakz too if the abilities wouldn’t do half the damage for no reason.


if 1% of the logs means "everyone" to you, than we probably have different understanding of words, I'm not sure what that reddit link was suppose to prove, just take a look at the logs - https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/17#boss=2076&&class=Shaman&&spec=Enhancement

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Post Posted: 04-08-2020, 23:13:28 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Hailstorm should be first option in this tier no matter what, you probably prefer ancestral because hailstorm rotation is more complex ,you will never see a top shaman playing with ancestral here, untill now when you do 800k avg with rockbiter and 900k avg on lava at bis gear with 91 traits.
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Post Posted: 05-08-2020, 16:02:23 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

@Florin, at this point I'm not sure that Hailstorm is the reason the spells get affected. I was able to have the same issue, although I didn't use hailstorm.
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Post Posted: 05-08-2020, 17:42:50 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Hailstorm is a completely viable option if you have a high haste stat already because of BiS gear. Might even be superior with BiS than 6% more haste.

Nevertheless this problem is not based on hailstorm, it seems like a problem/bug with mastery scaling. Remember not only the dmg is off but also the SB/WF proccchance which is another indicator for mastery problems. Having a downtime of 10-15 secs with 40% haste and 80% mastery after pushing out every bit of maelstorm (lava lash spam with Stormstrike build LOL) does not make any sense. It is VERY volatile because there are also pulls where you seem to be very lucky and the SB proccchance is OK, so its kinda hard to test/find the specific bug.

But the solution is pretty sinple - reroll Monk! Similar fast paced meele playstyle, less bugs and boosted class - And insane op healer spec, especially in PVP. -

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