BOT - Valiona & Theralion

[Zohlomg]

Post here any bugs you have encountered in the Valiona & Theralion fight.

Known bugs so far:

• [FIXED] Missing Berserk timer 10min on normal&heroic
• [PENDING] Valiona's breaths are bigger than 1/3 of the room, currently 1/2
• [PENDING] If Valiona and Theralion have different targets, at phase transition the encounter is getting buggy and completely wipes the raid
• [FIXED] You do not get ejected from Twilight Realm at wipe
• [FIXED] Twilight Realm adds do not always correspond with the white balls from the normal realm
• [FIXED] Devouring Flames should be casted on random players, not always on the tank
• [FIXED] Valiona should cast Twilight Shift too
• [FIXED] Twilight Zone damage stacks and 90% damage reduction is not always applied upon entering the realm
• [FIXED] Fabulous Flames should be visible and deal damage in the realm
• [FIXED] Twilight Sentry(Twilight Zones adds) HP is too big on both 10h/25h
• [FIXED] Balls from the Twilight Zone should become inactive for a couple of seconds after touching one
• [FIXED] Devouring Flames' damage should be reduced the further you are from the boss
• [FIXED] Blackout should not get removed upon overhealing
• [FIXED] Twilight Zone debuff should not be removed upon exiting the Twilight Zone
• [FIXED] Valiona and Theralion had their 4.2 20% HP nerf applied, their HP should be bigger
• [FIXED] Blackout should still deal damage if overhealed

[MindBreaker]

1) In Twilight Realm nu se stackeaza Twilight Zone (wowhead link).
2) Blackout (wowhead link) nu explodeaza dupa ce absoarbe healu primit.
3) Fabulous Flame (wowhead link) nu sunt vizibile in Twilight Realm. Atentie acestea nu trebuie sa dea damage in Twilight Realm.
4) Twilight Shift (wowhead link) ar trebui sa fie aplicat pe main tank si de catre Valiona.
5) Collapsing Twilight Portal ar trebui sa exista intr-o locatie pentru 15 secunde dupa sa dispara si ar trebui sa fie 2 pentru o scurta perioada de timp(sa apara altu cu ~5sec inainte sa dispara celalalt).
6) Twilight Fiend ar trebui sa se spawneze random prin Twilight Realm (si pe normal si pe heroic) si sa fuga spre o margine (am vazut in unele videouri) pana dispar. Ei sunt inofensivi dar trebuie omorati pentru a putea lua achievementul Double Dragon.
7) In Twilight Realm ambi dragoni ar trebui sa aiba Twilight Shift (wowhead link) care presupun ca fac un damage increase cu o anumita abilitate daca nu cu toate abilitatile.
8) Deep Breath (wowhead link) ar trebui sa fie pus random pe unele dintre cele 3 parti ale camerei nu mereu in aceeasi ordine si da exista si sansa ca pe una din parti sa nu fie pusa deloc.

Informatiile le am de pe http://www.wowhead.com/ si http://www.icy-veins.com/valiona-and-theralion-detailed-strategy .


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[enjank]

[PENDING] Valiona's breaths are bigger than 1/3 of the room, currently 1/2

This was fixed already, breath's size is correct.

[PENDING] If Valiona and Theralion have different targets, at phase transition the encounter is getting buggy and completely wipes the raid

This happens when tank gets teleported into Twilight realm during Valiona's Deep Breath (wowhead link)

[MindBreaker]

@enjank you're not correct with both things.
first valiona's deep breath is on 1/2 of room can be seen easily.
second I tried to use Bane of Havoc on Valiona and I has both tanks in Normal Realm and she wipe the raid because he's tank wasn't same with Theralion's tank.


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[enjank]

MindBreaker wrote:

@enjank you're not correct with both things. first valiona's deep breath is on 1/2 of room can be seen easily. second I tried to use Bane of Havoc on Valiona and I has both tanks in Normal Realm and she wipe the raid because he's tank wasn't same with Theralion's tank.

Killed yesterday and breath was 1/3 of the room.
Our lock's also have Bane all the time and we have never wiped because of that.

[Ezeky]

[PENDING] Sometimes the Twilight Realms mobs are EVADING or getting OUT OF RANGE (Still need proof&screenshots on this one)

About this bugg. its not out of range actually. its something weird happening. The mobs are able to be dotted and stuff but if I try to use Mind flay on them it says "Spell not ready" and the spell has no CD.
Also when this happen the DMG from the twilight mobs is insane high. (twilight rapture) I mean.

Most of the time when we get this we need to reset the istance or something cause its a guaranteed wipe.

[PENDING] You can get Engulfing Magic & Twilight Meteorite at the same time (Still need proof&screenshots on this one)
Never seen this happen. and we are doing the fight 4 times every week.

[PENDING] Valiona's breaths are bigger than 1/3 of the room, currently 1/2
I confirm this.

[PENDING] If Valiona and Theralion have different targets, at phase transition the encounter is getting buggy and completely wipes the raid

I don't think it has anything to do with differet targets. I think it has to do with the person who has aggro on the boss if he is LoS with valiona she is bugging out.
Maybe it can be solved by resetting the aggro table of valiona when she is doing the deep breath that way she will land in the middle of the room and will pick the nearest target to start DPS on. Tank should TAUNT at that point.

Hope this info can help a bit

See ya
Ezeky

If you never fail, you're not trying hard enough!


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[enjank]

Are you saying that Deep Breath is larger than 4:21 https://youtube.com/watch?v=c0aO32s6sFs:

?

[mariix]

Usile cand incepi un Boss ar trebui sa se inchida pe freakz nu se inchid

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[Ezeky]

need to check again to be 100% sure but the if you stand in middle of the room you get the flames on you and middle of the room seem 1/2 of the room to me.

Will fraps it on Monday or so when we so 25hc to put a new video of our kill.

BUG => Blackout. If you Overheal the target with 40k it removes Blackout without DMG, should not happen.
BUG => Devouring flames should be faced against a random player not the tank always.
=> Devouring Flames DMG from it should fade depending on the distance from the boss. (need to check to be 100% sure)

See ya
Ezeky

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[MindBreaker]

@enjack
yes Valiona's Deep Breath is higher than min 4:21 from you video and it cover 1/2 of room.
and about valiona transition bug the problem is if valiona have a different tank than theralion it get buggy. In your raids valiona don't change its target while airborne
know about twilight meteorit and engulf in same time this can be checked by Shocker if he but SpellTargetSelector for engulf and meteorit to make them don't target players how have one of the auras.
@mariix doors aren't an important thing they are not spawned and I don't think this influence the encounter.

EDIT: I confirm the second bug reported by Ezeky I forgot about it . Devouring Flames should face a random target .
And Ezeky I already reported Blackout bug.


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[enjank]

Ezeky wrote:

middle of the room seem 1/2 of the room to me.

Agree to this part.

[Ezeky]

ok just too bad I don't understand romanian

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[raxxar]

Valiona is not debuffing the tank with twilight shift and delaying the way to enter twilight realm. This cause too much damage from twilight sentries cause the only way to enter is on the first dazzling destructions when there are already 6 sentries spawned.
Some other bug i've seen in the last week is that the devouring flames are dealing damage to persons that are not infront of Valiona. It happened several times already. Maybe someone getting aggro while the flames are being casted.

[MindBreaker]

first bug reported by you raxxar was already reported by me and zohl already added the bug that make sentries to spawn from first phase of the encounter which shouldn't happen.
and the second bug is invalid. if someone get aggro and start to cast devouring flames on that target valiona remain faced in that direction.


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[raxxar]

MindBreaker wrote:

first bug reported by you raxxar was already reported by me and zohl already added the bug that make sentries to spawn from first phase of the encounter which shouldn't happen. and the second bug is invalid. if someone get aggro and start to cast devouring flames on that target valiona remain faced in that direction.

1. Clearly you haven't watched/played retail to claim that twilight sentries do NOT spawn on first phase. They DO. First one is 20 sec into the fight and the rest are spawned every 15 sec. The normal fifth stack of the first tank should happen around the first phase transition.
2. You haven't experienced it and you think you know everything ... I saw it 3 times for 2 days and its something similar to the flamethrower of Magmatron, but with opposite result ( at ods if u get the aggro during it - it will target its normal "acquired" target and probaly kill the raid ) . Here the animation is showing that the flames are going in the direction of the tank, but its damaging everyone behind Valiona. I didn't say i am sure that its because of the aggro.