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Post Posted: 10-01-2016, 14:29:15 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

The mathemathically correct formula looks like this:

2.25 * AP * [1 + (pvppower / 100)] * [1 - (resilience / 100)]

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Post Posted: 10-01-2016, 15:01:48 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

But now we have the formula you posted with * 0.pvpresil not * 1 - pvpresil or i understood wrong your post
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Post Posted: 20-01-2016, 12:35:42 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Don`t bother smashyx, you are not the only one or the first one that tries this necrotic post.
As Dreadblade continues to be a rank 1 dk , the only one with gargoyle , 50 k , per hit, and not to mention , the damage he does in bgs or arenas, triple sometimes then other, you will not solve nothing.
I`m wondering , why other dk`s with experience, could not make that damage like him , but he does.
In fact, there are a lots of dks, that can lower your HP in a second, with that necrotics, and then soul reaper, and then dead.
Like Exorcizare olso , when I`m 1 v 1 with him , with all my heart of the wild and craps, thouse necrotics are damageing me like shit, and then I die, I could not even , cast damage, because I must try to heal myself , as I can , but useless, it takes 5-6 seconds, and I` m dead.
it seems to me , that some dk, like Dreadblade, Exorcizare, Feelcakez , and other, know some thing that are overpowered and maybe are some exploits olso.
The thing is , that several people tried to post this necrotics shit, and everytime dreadblade or other , closed it , sometimes without any resons. ( and people with experience ) are doing thouse posts. but useless.
SO therefore , smashy , you will solve nothing, it will be like Dreadblade, it will keep comeing with some math numbers and other.
Don`t bother. ( be thankful that warrior is op ) -

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Post Posted: 20-01-2016, 14:48:18 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Jesus!
All this nonsense and shit and QQ.

I'm glad I'm not playing anymore, you guys are messed up in the head.

Take a chill pill.




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Post Posted: 23-01-2016, 20:30:18 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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MesajTrimis: 10-01-2016, 14:29:15 Titlul subiectului:
The mathemathically correct formula looks like this:
2.25 * AP * [1 + (pvppower / 100)] * [1 - (resilience / 100)]

We don't have this formula now we have :2.25 * AP * [1 + (pvppower / 100)] * (resilience / 100) and if it is true please confirm this post

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Post Posted: 23-01-2016, 20:33:09 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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MesajTrimis: 10-01-2016, 14:29:15 Titlul subiectului:
The mathemathically correct formula looks like this:
2.25 * AP * [1 + (pvppower / 100)] * [1 - (resilience / 100)]

We don't have this formula now we have :2.25 * AP * [1 + (pvppower / 100)] * (resilience / 100) and if it is true please confirm this post


No, that is not true, the formula that's already in effect is the one I posted above.

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Post Posted: 23-01-2016, 21:04:07 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

But here:https://forum.wow-freakz.com/Death-Knight-All-Specs-Spell-Necrotic-Strike-t347357.html you use the wrong formula in the example and it was fixed
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Post Posted: 23-01-2016, 21:08:09 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Shocker was careful enough to implement the correct formula regardless. Go test it for yourself and stop trying to prove it wrong without evidence. And test it on a player, not on a dummy.
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Post Posted: 25-01-2016, 10:43:36 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

PvP Power is an attribute found on pre-Warlords of Draenor gear that increases damage dealt and healing done.

PvP Power's bonus to healing is based on class and specialization:

Healing specializations receive a 100% bonus to healing from PvP Power.
Damage specializations for druids, monks, paladins, priests, and shaman receive a 70% bonus to healing from PvP Power.
All other specializations and classes (including tanking) receive a 40% bonus to healing from PvP Power.


Necrotic Strike:
A vicious strike that deals x% weapon damage, absorbs the next (225 / 100 * Attack power) healing received by the target. Lasts 10 sec.

Secondary effect doesn't do any damage, and pvp power AFFECTS DAMAGE for damage classes, DK is not a healer and and any helpfull abillity should benefit from 40% of the total amount of pvp power(death coil healing, ns absorb, etc). Absorb is categorized under healing for your information.


About that video, were is the proof ? when some bugs were posted here based on addon info all stated that addons are not reliable in providing that proof, yet somehow here we get the same shit and it's reliable because...? and beside that, the dk in the vid has kings equivalent and might and flask and perhaps full str reforge.


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Post Posted: 25-01-2016, 12:48:35 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Mr.Faith wrote:
PvP Power is an attribute found on pre-Warlords of Draenor gear that increases damage dealt and healing done.

PvP Power's bonus to healing is based on class and specialization:

Healing specializations receive a 100% bonus to healing from PvP Power.
Damage specializations for druids, monks, paladins, priests, and shaman receive a 70% bonus to healing from PvP Power.
All other specializations and classes (including tanking) receive a 40% bonus to healing from PvP Power.


Necrotic Strike:
A vicious strike that deals x% weapon damage, absorbs the next (225 / 100 * Attack power) healing received by the target. Lasts 10 sec.

Secondary effect doesn't do any damage, and pvp power AFFECTS DAMAGE for damage classes, DK is not a healer and and any helpfull abillity should benefit from 40% of the total amount of pvp power(death coil healing, ns absorb, etc). Absorb is categorized under healing for your information.


About that video, were is the proof ? when some bugs were posted here based on addon info all stated that addons are not reliable in providing that proof, yet somehow here we get the same shit and it's reliable because...? and beside that, the dk in the vid has kings equivalent and might and flask and perhaps full str reforge.


Yes, this makes sense!

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Post Posted: 25-01-2016, 19:04:09 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Mr.Faith wrote:
PvP Power is an attribute found on pre-Warlords of Draenor gear that increases damage dealt and healing done.

PvP Power's bonus to healing is based on class and specialization:

Healing specializations receive a 100% bonus to healing from PvP Power.
Damage specializations for druids, monks, paladins, priests, and shaman receive a 70% bonus to healing from PvP Power.
All other specializations and classes (including tanking) receive a 40% bonus to healing from PvP Power.


Necrotic Strike:
A vicious strike that deals x% weapon damage, absorbs the next (225 / 100 * Attack power) healing received by the target. Lasts 10 sec.

Secondary effect doesn't do any damage, and pvp power AFFECTS DAMAGE for damage classes, DK is not a healer and and any helpfull abillity should benefit from 40% of the total amount of pvp power(death coil healing, ns absorb, etc). Absorb is categorized under healing for your information.


About that video, were is the proof ? when some bugs were posted here based on addon info all stated that addons are not reliable in providing that proof, yet somehow here we get the same shit and it's reliable because...? and beside that, the dk in the vid has kings equivalent and might and flask and perhaps full str reforge.


I don't think it's like that.
I see dk's necrotic absorb as the opposite of let's say disc absorbs.
Whereas power word shield puts a defensive shield on a friendly target ,that absorbs damage .. , a necrotic puts a offensive shield on a enemy target that absorbs healing.
See.. it's the exact opposite.

IMO necrotic absorbs are for damage what priest shields are for healing.
So following this logic, if a priest shield counts towards healing than a dk absorb should count towards damage.



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Post Posted: 28-01-2016, 19:02:20 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Well, this is a Griev/tyran dk wih 45% pvp power.

IMG: http://i.imgur.com/TOTBN6n.jpg

With full pride he would have 62% pvp power.

Think of this dk with +15-20k ap and +16% pvp power and a tailoring enchant aswel. Necro will be 100k. 5% rezil won't reduce it to 80k.

And there's a full prideful orc dk dueling: https://youtu.be/srHXyirrqec?t=3m40s , at 3:40 i can see a 74k necrotic while in burst. interesting, right?

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Just going to leave this here:

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/7004453720

http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1472661-Does-Battle-Farigue-PvP-Power-affect-Necrotic-Strike-debuff

http://www.wowhead.com/guide=2438/unholy-death-knight-pvp-guide-gearing-up-pressure-and-utility#tabs-name-gemming
Quote from last one :
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Because a Bold Primordial Ruby gem provides more damage than a Stormy River's Heart, it is useless to gem pvp power or compliment any pvp power socket bonus,
considering a full blown strength gem is going to be more beneficial. Also PvP power gems do not affect the health absorption stack of your necrotic strike.


Hope this is going to end this topic.

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