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Post Posted: 12-06-2017, 19:12:18 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Literally the second post on this topic:
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Not all of them, but we already fixed lots of the specs, we'll have at least 1 spec per class at launch

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Post Posted: 12-06-2017, 20:23:43 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Fyury wrote:
https://forum.wow-freakz.com/Working-Artifact-Scenarios-t469604.html (here can you see what Artifact Scenarios are working)


so basically I

will not be playing my main, a mage at my normal spec

will definitely not be playing a warlock as none of the quests are scripted

will not be playing my priest, coz I dont heal

will not be playing my dudu coz i hate feral

this doesn't look good

and the worse is that i'm actually playing them right now in the PTR

as it is, there is no real reason for me to play freakz' legion except for the fact that I've donated for my fav mounts and pets

and oh, I will have to wait a month to get them (will it take a month for me to play at least one of the classes I normally do?)

Fyury wrote:
I agree with wait for your Artifact until the quest/scenario is scripted, because it is a huge chaos when you already have the Artifact and you do the Quests/Scenario. But i would say why not create a NPC who gives you for free a Weapon with 715+ ilvl weapon until you can get your Artifact?


you obviously haven't played legion, and that's ok. no reason why you should have

but then: don't offer your opinion on something you don't know

and the same goes for everyone that shares this non sense of "ohh, but you can use another weapon"

legion = weapon + AP grind



and what kills me is that the artifact weapons are working

that's not the issue, the issue is how to get them

on top of it, I will have to go back to all the people that I've told about freakz and tell them to go check if they can play the spec they like

basically retracting myself from saying "freakz' legion server is gonna be better than this crap you play now"



there are no more post from shocker, so this is for you man:

if this is some sort of tactic where by at the end of the day you come save the day by saying "don't worry everyone will play the spec they want"

(à la mounts, pets & achievs)

it's a really bad marketing strategy

having at least one artifact weapon scenario scripted is the only competitive advantage you have, for now

the other legion servers already have mythic+, world quests, emissary quests, professions and the rest of the enchilada

but most importantly they have population that are not always happy to leave everything behind and start over

and this little controversy about people not being able to play the spec they want (even tho the weapons are very nicely scripted)

does not help bring in players/donors

I for once, have already stopped talking about freakz

sadly #theHypeisGone

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Post Posted: 12-06-2017, 20:35:13 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

ZexeoR wrote:
Literally the second post on this topic:
Shocker wrote:
Not all of them, but we already fixed lots of the specs, we'll have at least 1 spec per class at launch


Perhaps, but there was never an offical list of those. Also like troncho stated in his post, people do not like to be forced to play one spec.
I, for one, do not really care if the scenario for an artifact weapon works. I prefer that the weapon and its thraits work since you do the scenario once and use the weapon for the whole expansion.

If I get the weapon from a vendor since the scenario does not work then so be it, atleast I can play the spec I want to. However this gives a problem with the stages at which u acquire the artifacts. Since normally you pick one at L100 and cannot get the other weapons untill L102. Doubt this is a big issue though.



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Post Posted: 12-06-2017, 20:37:11 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

troncho wrote:
Fyury wrote:
https://forum.wow-freakz.com/Working-Artifact-Scenarios-t469604.html (here can you see what Artifact Scenarios are working)


so basically I

will not be playing my main, a mage at my normal spec

will definitely not be playing a warlock as none of the quests are scripted

will not be playing my priest, coz I dont heal

will not be playing my dudu coz i hate feral

this doesn't look good

and the worse is that i'm actually playing them right now in the PTR

as it is, there is no real reason for me to play freakz' legion except for the fact that I've donated for my fav mounts and pets

and oh, I will have to wait a month to get them (will it take a month for me to play at least one of the classes I normally do?)

Fyury wrote:
I agree with wait for your Artifact until the quest/scenario is scripted, because it is a huge chaos when you already have the Artifact and you do the Quests/Scenario. But i would say why not create a NPC who gives you for free a Weapon with 715+ ilvl weapon until you can get your Artifact?


you obviously haven't played legion, and that's ok. no reason why you should have

but then: don't offer your opinion on something you don't know

and the same goes for everyone that shares this non sense of "ohh, but you can use another weapon"

legion = weapon + AP grind



and what kills me is that the artifact weapons are working

that's not the issue, the issue is how to get them

on top of it, I will have to go back to all the people that I've told about freakz and tell them to go check if they can play the spec they like

basically retracting myself from saying "freakz' legion server is gonna be better than this crap you play now"



there are no more post from shocker, so this is for you man:

if this is some sort of tactic where by at the end of the day you come save the day by saying "don't worry everyone will play the spec they want"

(à la mounts, pets & achievs)

it's a really bad marketing strategy

having at least one artifact weapon scenario scripted is the only competitive advantage you have, for now

the other legion servers already have mythic+, world quests, emissary quests, professions and the rest of the enchilada

but most importantly they have population that are not always happy to leave everything behind and start over

and this little controversy about people not being able to play the spec they want (even tho the weapons are very nicely scripted)

does not help bring in players/donors

I for once, have already stopped talking about freakz

sadly #theHypeisGone


I played Legion since it was released dude. Without Artifact Weapons it is not anymore Legion. I sayed "wait" or "play" until you can get the Artifact Weapons, if you do not like this, ok then go play shitstorm or something else, but you must have some respect to the Devs and let them script Legion. They want uns to wait for the Artifact Sceanrios, because the want to show us and new people what they can do !

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Post Posted: 12-06-2017, 20:41:30 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Fyury wrote:
troncho wrote:
Fyury wrote:
https://forum.wow-freakz.com/Working-Artifact-Scenarios-t469604.html (here can you see what Artifact Scenarios are working)


so basically I

will not be playing my main, a mage at my normal spec

will definitely not be playing a warlock as none of the quests are scripted

will not be playing my priest, coz I dont heal

will not be playing my dudu coz i hate feral

this doesn't look good

and the worse is that i'm actually playing them right now in the PTR

as it is, there is no real reason for me to play freakz' legion except for the fact that I've donated for my fav mounts and pets

and oh, I will have to wait a month to get them (will it take a month for me to play at least one of the classes I normally do?)

Fyury wrote:
I agree with wait for your Artifact until the quest/scenario is scripted, because it is a huge chaos when you already have the Artifact and you do the Quests/Scenario. But i would say why not create a NPC who gives you for free a Weapon with 715+ ilvl weapon until you can get your Artifact?


you obviously haven't played legion, and that's ok. no reason why you should have

but then: don't offer your opinion on something you don't know

and the same goes for everyone that shares this non sense of "ohh, but you can use another weapon"

legion = weapon + AP grind



and what kills me is that the artifact weapons are working

that's not the issue, the issue is how to get them

on top of it, I will have to go back to all the people that I've told about freakz and tell them to go check if they can play the spec they like

basically retracting myself from saying "freakz' legion server is gonna be better than this crap you play now"



there are no more post from shocker, so this is for you man:

if this is some sort of tactic where by at the end of the day you come save the day by saying "don't worry everyone will play the spec they want"

(à la mounts, pets & achievs)

it's a really bad marketing strategy

having at least one artifact weapon scenario scripted is the only competitive advantage you have, for now

the other legion servers already have mythic+, world quests, emissary quests, professions and the rest of the enchilada

but most importantly they have population that are not always happy to leave everything behind and start over

and this little controversy about people not being able to play the spec they want (even tho the weapons are very nicely scripted)

does not help bring in players/donors

I for once, have already stopped talking about freakz

sadly #theHypeisGone


I played Legion since it was released dude. Without Artifact Weapons it is not anymore Legion. I sayed "wait" or "play" until you can get the Artifact Weapons, if you do not like this, ok then go play shitstorm or something else, but you must have some respect to the Devs and let them script Legion. They want uns to wait for the Artifact Sceanrios, because the want to show us and new people what they can do !

Criticism doesn't mean disrespect.



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Post Posted: 12-06-2017, 21:47:08 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

There is not much time have left,before official launch of Legion.Why devs have not write,if they will allow us to receive the artifact weapons after completing the quests?They will have time,to fix the scenarios and players will receive weapons and everyone will be happy.A lot of new players and old players will come.this will be HUGE advantage of Freakz over other legion servers because the content work here,is not working in other servers.Think about it.
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Post Posted: 12-06-2017, 22:29:29 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

A decision will be taken before the launch, we're still taking all arguments into consideration

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Post Posted: 12-06-2017, 22:40:58 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Just make it so that completing the one scripted scenario at the time will award all 3-4 of the Artifact weapons. Making some custom bullshit change mechanic is just silly. Forcing people to play one spec when you have made so much progress in balancing classes and Artifact weapons in the PTR is a shame.
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Post Posted: 12-06-2017, 23:07:26 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

To be fair to all player Artefact should be disabled untill all specs can have them.As the most grinding thing in legion it will give too much of a lead to players that can have the one they want UNLESS we will be able to get all the ap put into the one we can have to the one we want! -> still this isn't ideal since you wil ldelay your prefered spec but i think might be one of the best solutions since it won't delay other players and all server can start to grind that ap as soon as they can

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Post Posted: 12-06-2017, 23:10:22 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Foxed wrote:
To be fair to all player Artefact should be disabled untill all specs can have them.As the most grinding thing in legion it will give too much of a lead to players that can have the one they want UNLESS we will be able to get all the ap put into the one we can have to the one we want! -> still this isn't ideal since you wil ldelay your prefered spec but i think might be one of the best solutions since it won't delay other players and all server can start to grind that ap as soon as they can


Yeah, and we gonna use sticks as weapons, right? You clearly haven't played Legion.

I'm sure Freakz Staff is gonna find a good solution, there's plenty of them on this topic.

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Post Posted: 13-06-2017, 11:59:16 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

I agree with the people saying that we should get all Artifact weapons for the class we are playing after we complete the working quest for 1 of the specs . It's only fair that people can play the spec they desire from the start of the server.
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It would be better if all scenarios would be working, but if not, just make the quests auto-complete, put a NPC on the location we have to go to complete the quest.

Also, I don't believe people will reach level 100 on the first day ( except DH ), so maybe they will have a little more time to fix the scenarios.

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Post Posted: 13-06-2017, 18:24:32 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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It would be better if all scenarios would be working, but if not, just make the quests auto-complete, put a NPC on the location we have to go to complete the quest.

Also, I don't believe people will reach level 100 on the first day ( except DH ), so maybe they will have a little more time to fix the scenarios.


WE will NOT make custom NPC's and will NOT add auto complete for quests. Learn to be a little more patient there will be a solution to this problem announced soon



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LethalFactorLK wrote:
Adraythien wrote:
It would be better if all scenarios would be working, but if not, just make the quests auto-complete, put a NPC on the location we have to go to complete the quest.

Also, I don't believe people will reach level 100 on the first day ( except DH ), so maybe they will have a little more time to fix the scenarios.


WE will NOT make custom NPC's and will NOT add auto complete for quests. Learn to be a little more patient there will be a solution to this problem announced soon



Whatever you choose for the server/realm is the best right? So of course I will be patient, I will wait, there's no need to rush.

I was only suggesting a temporary solution, not a permanent one. Keep the good work.

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Post Posted: 14-06-2017, 16:37:18 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Unfortunately there is no solution to satisfy everyone as you may have already seen here, there are too many contradicting suggestions.
Because we can't:
- disable artifacts completely
- add them to vendors
- allow you to make the same quest chain multiple
- make quests auto complete
or other similar solutions
BUT players NEED the artifacts (and we already advertised they are working, players will expect them), you will receive all other artifact items when you finish the quest chain currently scripted. Yes, this sucks, but it's the only good solution we found to prevent huge rage from players.


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