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Post Posted: 17-03-2018, 18:54:18 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

WoW Freakz spell link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=203555
Bug description: It doesn't proc as often as it should proc and I noticed that the spell is being parryed or blocked.
Proof:
Here you can see my stats that I am using during those tests :
https://imgur.com/a/LEsAv
The tests are :
1) 100 auto - attacks in dummy -> it should be 65 demon blade's procs
Auto attacks count : https://imgur.com/a/yno9L
Demon blade's procs : https://imgur.com/a/DKgIS
Result : 50 procs not 65
2) 101 auto - attacks in dummy -> it should be 65 demon blade's procs
Auto attacks count : https://imgur.com/a/RLT92
Demon blade's procs : https://imgur.com/a/VJN4A
Result : 42 procs not 65
3) 100 auto attacks in dummy -> it should be 65 demon blade's procs
Auto attacks count : https://imgur.com/a/cnlTt
Demon blade's procs : https://imgur.com/a/AeCEd
Result : 45 procs not 65
4) 200 auto attacks in dummy -> it should be 130 demon blade's procs
Auto attack count : https://imgur.com/a/vFMbm
Demon blade's procs : https://imgur.com/a/zjlLh
Result : 100 procs not 130
5) 1000 auto attacks in dummy -> it should be 650 demon blade's procs
Auto attack count : https://imgur.com/a/FVt7j
Demon blade's procs : https://imgur.com/a/4qRYS
Result : 484 not 650

Another thing that I must say is that the demon blade shouldn't get blocked/parryed . Here is the proof :
https://www.askmrrobot.com/wow/theory/mechanic/spell/demonblades?spec=DemonHunterHavoc&&version=7_1_5_23420

It says very clear : "Guaranteed ? Yes"

Also , here is the tooltip of all versions of the demon blade . If you look at 7.1.5 it says 65% of you melee attacks .
https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=203555 (wowhead link)

In case any admin would set this post as rejected I would wish to know why and what's the reason for it .

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Post Posted: 17-03-2018, 20:15:20 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Your claim that it should not be parried or blocked is not true.
https://imgur.com/a/Au7Cj

What ask mr robot says is that when Demon Blades hits the target, it is guaranteed that you get the Resource (random amount of Fury, between 12 and 21). Demon Blades is a melee spell, it will be always subject to dodge/parry/block.

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Post Posted: 18-03-2018, 01:36:40 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Quicksand wrote:
Your claim that it should not be parried or blocked is not true.
https://imgur.com/a/Au7Cj

What ask mr robot says is that when Demon Blades hits the target, it is guaranteed that you get the Resource (random amount of Fury, between 12 and 21). Demon Blades is a melee spell, it will be always subject to dodge/parry/block.


Well , I supose I am wrong . But the proc chance is no mistake .

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Post Posted: 18-03-2018, 03:46:13 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Chance (percent)
= 0.6 This is the proc chance of demon blades on our patch , 7.1.5.23420 , if it were 65% as you claim it should say 0.65 if i'm not mistaken . I'm pretty sure that the site data base says 65% even though the proc chance is 60% because of an older post i made back in legion beta , which you can view here https://forum.wow-freakz.com/FIXED-Demon-Hunter-Havoc-Chaos-Cleave-Demon-Blades-t460452.html .

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Post Posted: 18-03-2018, 12:00:19 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

DoesMyNameMatter wrote:
Chance (percent)
= 0.6 This is the proc chance of demon blades on our patch , 7.1.5.23420 , if it were 65% as you claim it should say 0.65 if i'm not mistaken . I'm pretty sure that the site data base says 65% even though the proc chance is 60% because of an older post i made back in legion beta , which you can view here https://forum.wow-freakz.com/FIXED-Demon-Hunter-Havoc-Chaos-Cleave-Demon-Blades-t460452.html .


In that case I don't understand . Why on wowhead tooltip it also says 65% and not 60% ? You can see in the link that I provided before and also I took a ss here : https://imgur.com/a/Rhj2d

And also , the current procs of demon blades on freakz are around 50% not 60 .

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Post Posted: 18-03-2018, 13:52:50 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Zoomax wrote:
DoesMyNameMatter wrote:
Chance (percent)
= 0.6 This is the proc chance of demon blades on our patch , 7.1.5.23420 , if it were 65% as you claim it should say 0.65 if i'm not mistaken . I'm pretty sure that the site data base says 65% even though the proc chance is 60% because of an older post i made back in legion beta , which you can view here https://forum.wow-freakz.com/FIXED-Demon-Hunter-Havoc-Chaos-Cleave-Demon-Blades-t460452.html .


In that case I don't understand . Why on wowhead tooltip it also says 65% and not 60% ? You can see in the link that I provided before and also I took a ss here : https://imgur.com/a/Rhj2d

And also , the current procs of demon blades on freakz are around 50% not 60 .

Actually you are forgetting to subtract the misses/parries you did with parry attacks.
I'll take the 5th test you did as an example, the one with 1000 auto atacks, cos it's the closest to being statistically relevant, the other numbers are way too low.
Ok so in your screenshot you did 1000 melee attacks. Details doesn't show you how many misses you've got, but you can just add normal hits(269) + critical hits(521) + blocked hits (7) = 797
So 60% of 797 is 797*0.6 = 478 demon blades procs. And you had 484 procs, so it is indeed a 60% percent proc chance.




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Post Posted: 18-03-2018, 14:37:04 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

The reason you see that on WoWHead is because that's not the patch we're on , techincally . That build is 7.1.5.23038 , we're on 7.1.5.23420 . Now , @tudor . I might be wrong when i say this , but melee misses don't have anything to do with demon blades . I'm pretty sure that the game checks if demon blades will proc , after which said spell can't miss , it can be blocked or parried , but not missed . So melee misses don't have much of anything to do with demon blades procs , atleast to my knowledge.
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Post Posted: 18-03-2018, 15:00:23 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

DoesMyNameMatter wrote:
The reason you see that on WoWHead is because that's not the patch we're on , techincally . That build is 7.1.5.23038 , we're on 7.1.5.23420 . Now , @tudor . I might be wrong when i say this , but melee misses don't have anything to do with demon blades . I'm pretty sure that the game checks if demon blades will proc , after which said spell can't miss , it can be blocked or parried , but not missed . So melee misses don't have much of anything to do with demon blades procs , atleast to my knowledge.


https://www.askmrrobot.com/wow/theory/mechanic/spell/demonblades?spec=DemonHunterHavoc&&version=7_1_5_23420
https://i.imgur.com/PiZPXUl.png
It says spell hit, so if you miss an auto attack it can't proc Demon Blades.




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Post Posted: 18-03-2018, 15:43:36 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Guess i was wrong
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Post Posted: 19-03-2018, 04:50:48 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Wow, I don't have anything to add, you addressed everything I wanted to explain.

Good then, I'm rejecting this

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