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Post Posted: 11-06-2015, 20:56:36 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Ma mir ca nu a venit nimeni cu propunerea bug-ului asta https://forum.wow-freakz.com/Monk-All-Specs-Spell-Rushing-Jade-Wind-Spinning-Crane-Kick-t354761-15.html

Nu e cam ciudat sa fie Mistweavers ca tank/dps/heal toate 3 deodata si sa fie si in primele locuri @DPS indiferent daca e Single Target/Multiple Target?





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Post Posted: 11-06-2015, 23:11:17 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Burebysta wrote:
Ma mir ca nu a venit nimeni cu propunerea bug-ului asta https://forum.wow-freakz.com/Monk-All-Specs-Spell-Rushing-Jade-Wind-Spinning-Crane-Kick-t354761-15.html

Nu e cam ciudat sa fie Mistweavers ca tank/dps/heal toate 3 deodata si sa fie si in primele locuri @DPS indiferent daca e Single Target/Multiple Target?


E foarte ciudat -.
Eu de ex am jucat zilele trecute o arena vs MW + Warlock. La sfarsitul meciului monku daduse dmg cat warloku - vreo 3M.
Dmgul e urias si vreo 70%+ din el vine din Rushing Jade Wind.

Shoker , daca mai poti arunca o privire peste bug reportul asta ar fi super.



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Post Posted: 11-06-2015, 23:21:54 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Nu stiu de ce aveam impresia ca era deja in lista dupa ce ai dat edit, da intr-adevar e un bug major ce afecteaza atit pvp cat si pve.
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Post Posted: 12-06-2015, 10:15:17 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Burebysta wrote:
Ma mir ca nu a venit nimeni cu propunerea bug-ului asta https://forum.wow-freakz.com/Monk-All-Specs-Spell-Rushing-Jade-Wind-Spinning-Crane-Kick-t354761-15.html

Nu e cam ciudat sa fie Mistweavers ca tank/dps/heal toate 3 deodata si sa fie si in primele locuri @DPS indiferent daca e Single Target/Multiple Target?


ma bucur ca s-a pus si problema asta intr`un final...chiar mi se pare absurd...



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Post Posted: 12-06-2015, 12:36:59 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Cel mai abusrd este Priestul in PvP, nici o clasa nu e in stare sa-l aduca macar sub 50% Health (daca stie sa-si joace clasa), poti tine 150k absorbs la infinit(PW:S+ala din Penance+Divine Aegis+Spirit Shell = faci peste 300k absorbs... in rest stai cu 150k permanent) din cauza asta nu ii mai scade viata.... in Elite pvp gear nu ai ce sa-i faci la un priest in Dreadful... way too tanky.


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Post Posted: 12-06-2015, 13:03:17 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

cel din penanace sau mai exact din divine insight iti pune un scut de 20k, cred ca e buguit, sunt nou pe priest insa in tooltip spune ca te lasa sa pui un shield fara mana cost, fara cd, nu stiu exact cum e mecanica, eu personal joc holy pvp -
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Post Posted: 12-06-2015, 13:25:28 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

dot wrote:
cel din penanace sau mai exact din divine insight iti pune un scut de 20k, cred ca e buguit, sunt nou pe priest insa in tooltip spune ca te lasa sa pui un shield fara mana cost, fara cd, nu stiu exact cum e mecanica, eu personal joc holy pvp -
Nu stiu exact cat iti da ala din Divine insight, dar tot faci peste 300k absorb cu toate alea aplicate... daca e asa cum zici tu si il repara o sa ai cat? cu 60k mai mult? ... de holy inca nu am dat in arene si nu stiu cum sta treaba cu ei, dar Disci e un fel de "I don't give a !@#$, I'm immortal".

Pe blizz Disc era foarte bun in pve, in pvp se juca mai mult holy... ghici de ce: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/5967566867?page=2

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Post Posted: 12-06-2015, 15:38:43 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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In primul rand trebuie sa incepeti cu bugurile POZITIVE , care influenteaza o clasa considerabil. Nu voi sta sa enumerez acum ... le stiti si voi.Damageul este retard de mare pe unele clase...


Vigilu da 17% increase in loc de 12%. Tu iti dai seama ca imi scazi si ala 3k rake de care ma bucuram? -))))))))) Prioritatea ar trebui sa fie dupa cat de mult face diferenta fata de normal.


Pai eu la asta ma refer...



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Post Posted: 12-06-2015, 17:42:43 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Nu mai exagerati atat cu discul. Da, e buguit pozitiv, dar nu e nicidecum godlike si unkillable. Il poti omora usor chiar si fara elite weapon, ideea e sa ai putin creier si cam 8-10 secunde la burst uptime pe el. Daca il lasi sa casteze e vina ta, daca nu te ajuta partenerul cu cc, dispell pfensiv, etc, iar e vina voastra, dar discul e departe de a fi immortal. Monkul mi se pare cel mai greu de omorat atm, plus ca ratatii care abia si au facut monk joaca cu jade spinning kick(sau cum se numeste) pe specul de healca sa faca damage in loc sa joace cu xuen.


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Post Posted: 12-06-2015, 18:01:50 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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Nu mai exagerati atat cu discul. Da, e buguit pozitiv, dar nu e nicidecum godlike si unkillable. Il poti omora usor chiar si fara elite weapon, ideea e sa ai putin creier si cam 8-10 secunde la burst uptime pe el. Daca il lasi sa casteze e vina ta, daca nu te ajuta partenerul cu cc, dispell pfensiv, etc, iar e vina voastra, dar discul e departe de a fi immortal. Monkul mi se pare cel mai greu de omorat atm, plus ca ratatii care abia si au facut monk joaca cu jade spinning kick(sau cum se numeste) pe specul de healca sa faca damage in loc sa joace cu xuen.



Sau sa fii dk/warr. Iti spun eu ca pt mine discu e godlike si in burst dau si eu hituri de 80-90k spam. Tu pui un necrotic si nu-l mai sparge nici daca spameaza heal...normal ca e usor.



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Post Posted: 12-06-2015, 19:40:54 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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Amnezx wrote:
Nu mai exagerati atat cu discul. Da, e buguit pozitiv, dar nu e nicidecum godlike si unkillable. Il poti omora usor chiar si fara elite weapon, ideea e sa ai putin creier si cam 8-10 secunde la burst uptime pe el. Daca il lasi sa casteze e vina ta, daca nu te ajuta partenerul cu cc, dispell pfensiv, etc, iar e vina voastra, dar discul e departe de a fi immortal. Monkul mi se pare cel mai greu de omorat atm, plus ca ratatii care abia si au facut monk joaca cu jade spinning kick(sau cum se numeste) pe specul de healca sa faca damage in loc sa joace cu xuen.



Sau sa fii dk/warr. Iti spun eu ca pt mine discu e godlike si in burst dau si eu hituri de 80-90k spam. Tu pui un necrotic si nu-l mai sparge nici daca spameaza heal...normal ca e usor.

Mi l au spart pe tuiti double mages, era sa moara si de la destro. Ca e vai de el feralul, asta e partea a doua.



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Post Posted: 12-06-2015, 21:55:26 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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Il poti omora usor chiar si fara elite weapon, ideea e sa ai putin creier si cam 8-10 secunde la burst uptime pe el. Daca il lasi sa casteze e vina ta, daca nu te ajuta partenerul cu cc
Deci tu ma faci pe mine noob sau ce ca nu inteleg? ti-se pare ca doar idioti joaca pe server si de aia nu pot bate priestu? Ai cumva si Warrior pe langa dk?
Da un deul cu Turbo sa vezi ca nu ii faci nimic, cu tot cu "skill-ul" si gear-ul tau tot nu il bati, doar daca se lasa el batut.
Am facut abia 1850 rate in arena si am dat de combo-uri diferite, doar priestu era imbatabil si erai nevoit sa joci la CC fara nici un switch... am Warrior si DK si multe altele, nu joc doar o clasa stiu cu ce se mananca fiecare.

Also, ia incearca tu sa faci niste arene fara priestu tau ca partener, ia-ti de exemplu un monk daca zici ca e OP, sa vedem cat de mult rezisti.

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Post Posted: 13-06-2015, 02:49:22 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

La modul in care este configurat pvp power chiar va mirati de heal excesiv ? BF trebuia pus la 55% si pvp power 400/1%. Degeaba e resilu mai mare daca in rest nu s-a schimbat nimic; sa nu uitam ca exista si healeri prin jocul asta. Practic singura modificare din topicul ala ciudat unde se contraziceau toti asta trebuia sa fie: resil ramas la fel, modificat pvp power+ fatigue la 5.4. Ar fi scazut si damage-ul primit si heal-ul si v-ar fi facut viata mai lejera.

A da si din ce am observat la monk cel putin este buguit mana regen-ul; luandu-ma dupa https://forum.wow-freakz.com/view-post-4603476.html?#4603476
Asta e formula de mp5 de pe MoP: Combat Regen = Total Mana *0.02 +(1.1287*SPI*Meditation%);
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/6794873160 Cine e interesat de mai multe detalii, sa citeasca pe aici.


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Post Posted: 13-06-2015, 12:57:54 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Exagerati cu priest`ul acum...sunt combo-uri care il dau jos instant...nu o mai dati ca e "miez" plm...iar unde e heal in arena am vazut tot felul de ciobani care vin direct in heal...care e ideea sa dai direct pe el? vad ca toti se plang de priest in arena. Cati sunt in top? 1 max 2 ..asa ca mai taceti in pana mea. Cei care se plang joaca la sub 1500 mmr. Am intalnit prosti cu arma elite langa care, castam continuu si nu am vazut un intrerupt si pe urma faceau "qq" pe forum ca ei nu dau dmg in healeri sau veneau cu tot felul de motive; Amnezx are perfecta dreptate in ceeace scrie mai sus. Alta chestie majoritatea silance-urilor sunt buguite (adica iei silance in noncast si dureaza ca si atunci cand il iei in cast), cc-ul are unele probleme de dr...etc...


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Post Posted: 13-06-2015, 14:45:29 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

@indo Silence nu e buguit amice, asa a fost mereu, daca ai lag asta e.
Priestul e ultima problema la healeri op. Pot scrie o carte despre cat de op e monku, dar mist of pandaria nu e balanced pentru 2s, ci pentru 3s, daca pe freakz o sa jucam forever 2s pentru ca stafful nu isi da interesul in 3s e alta chestie.

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