Fixuri PvP ce ar trebui sa aiba o prioritate maxima

raven3 · Last edited by raven3 on 25-04-2016, 17:16:36; edited 46 times in total

Deschid acest thread (care sper ca va fi flame-free) ca sa scoatem in evidenta bugurile negative si pozitive la clase care ar putea impiedica o experienta buna in arene.
+ cu cat se deschid rated arenas mai repede ..cu atat vom fi (pvp playes) mai happy.
Sunt constient ca sunt bug reports in sectiunea special dedicata dar eu cred ca ar fi bine daca noi , pvp players, am oferi un feedback mai bogat referitor la aspectul asta al jocului.
La sectiunea de confirmed bugs sunt zeci de bugs dar din ele doar cateva au impact major asupra pvp si arenas si pe ele as vrea sa le punem in lumina.

As apela la spiritul fa1r play al fiecaruia sa precizeze in special bugurile pozitive a clasei pe care o joaca dar si pe cele negative care ii afecteaza foarte tare clasa/specu.
Sa nu uitati de set bonusuri daca ofera ceva foarte important.
Sa postati link spre bug reportul din sectiunea de confirmed bugs pentru ca sa poata fi indentificate mai usor.
O sa incerc su editez primu post cu bugurile pe care o sa le prezentati dar o sa le trec doar pe cele confirmed - ca sa nu creeze confuzii.
Am vazut la postu cu buguri de priest multe buguri neraportate dar valabile. Sa faca cineva in cunostinta de cauza bug report la ele , sa fie confirmate si pe urma le trecem.

BUGURILE REPARATE VOR FI STERSE DIN TOPIC PENTRU A NU-L AGLOMERA

Death Knight

Druid
https://forum.wow-freakz.com/Druid-Might-of-Ursoc-t408896.html

Hunter

Mage

Paladin

Priest

Rogue

Shaman

Warlock

Monk

Multiple
https://forum.wow-freakz.com/Multiple-Spell-Critical-Chance-Warlock-Spriest-Moonkin-Mage-t404746.html
https://forum.wow-freakz.com/Multiple-Spell-Queue-t355216.html
https://forum.wow-freakz.com/Multiple-Temporary-Pets-Dynamic-Stat-Scaling-t400309.html

darkworld81 · Posted: 05-06-2015, 16:33:31 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Buna ideea Kang.
Pentru DK buguri majore pozitive :
https://forum.wow-freakz.com/Death-Knight-All-Specs-Talent-Asphyxiate-vs-spells-that-should-remove-stuns-t352953.html - Bug-ul la stun.
Bug-ul la AMS : https://forum.wow-freakz.com/Death-Knight-All-Specs-Spell-Anti-Magic-Shell-t350831.html
Bug-ul de la Dark Simmulacrum , chiar daca nu este inca confirmed
Bug-uri majore negative :
MASTERY@Frost + Desecrated Ground https://forum.wow-freakz.com/Death-Knight-All-Specs-Talent-Desecrated-Ground-t353414.html
Cel de la necro metinonat de tine e la fel un bug prioritar.
Also Warlock , mai exact Demonology
0 dmg cu HoG .. https://forum.wow-freakz.com/Warlock-Demonology-Spell-Hand-of-Gul-Dan-t347123.html
Nu am ce sa postez la demo lock buguri pozitive , e mult prea broken , nu se poate juca deloc.
Sper sa nu se faca rage dupa asta ca toti ne vrem clasele fixate, ai spus ca sa postam fiecare ce jucam si mi se pare super ideea.

sergy · Posted: 05-06-2015, 17:13:46 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

in general si privind toate clasele si specs, problema principala sunt cifrele de pe abilitati

ca feral, ok nu dau slow cu faerie fire, bine, dar dau cu ferocious bite mai putin damage decat mangle? stai cu 5 combo points active pe target si spamezi mangle pentru ca rip are pus, la stun e deja immune, si efectiv n-ai ce sa faci

la fel pentru alte clase, dar nu am experimentat asa de bine cu ele ca sa-mi dau cu parerea

eu

rogue

monk

demon hunter

Amnezx · Posted: 05-06-2015, 17:26:19 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

sergy wrote:

in general si privind toate clasele si specs, problema principala sunt cifrele de pe abilitati

ca feral, ok nu dau slow cu faerie fire, bine, dar dau cu ferocious bite mai putin damage decat mangle? stai cu 5 combo points active pe target si spamezi mangle pentru ca rip are pus, la stun e deja immune, si efectiv n-ai ce sa faci

la fel pentru alte clase, dar nu am experimentat asa de bine cu ele ca sa-mi dau cu parerea

Din cate stiu eu ai prioritate la savage roar inainte de ferocious. si da, stiu ca ajungi la un moment in care nu mai ai ce sa dai si trebuir ferocious.

Magicqtz · Posted: 05-06-2015, 17:53:48 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Ok, deci ne referim la arene in special (materie pvp).

O sa postez pt elem si enhance, resto nu am jucat patch asta si nu ma pot pronunta, o sa postez doar cele cu prioritate maxima.

Pt elemental:

1. https://forum.wow-freakz.com/Shaman-Elemental-Lightning-Shield-t362497.html
Nu poti da fulmination in momentul actual.

2. https://forum.wow-freakz.com/Shaman-Elemental-Spell-Lava-burst-vs-Flame-Shock-damage-increase-t351289.html
Se pierde 50% dmg increase (extraordinar de mult).

3. https://forum.wow-freakz.com/Shaman-Elemental-Spell-Lava-Surge-t362866.html
Gameplayul elem depinde de lava surge procs in proportii de 90%, practic bugul asta iti mananca main spell dmg (lava burst).

Pt enhancement:

1. https://forum.wow-freakz.com/Shaman-Enhancement-Passive-Maelstrom-weapon-t348732.html
Nu am ce sa zic, doar ca trebuie reparat neaparat:))

2. https://forum.wow-freakz.com/Shaman-Enhancement-Spell-Windfury-Weapon-t364166.html
La fel si aici, ca cel mai de sus, sunt spells prioritare pt specul enhance.

3. https://forum.wow-freakz.com/Shaman-Enhancement-Spell-Lava-Lash-t360270.html
Lava lash da penibil de low, mai ales pe noul resill, dau 25k cu 5 stacks de searing flames.

4. https://forum.wow-freakz.com/Shaman-PvP-4-Piece-Bonus-Enhancement-Slow-t356471.html
Da, e important deoarece bonusul asta e pretty nice and an op slow, in mom actual, imi fuge de sub nas orice druid, rouge, hunter, mage, as putea sa continui cu toate clasele (astfel facand capacitor totem almost useless, mai ales ca nu merge totemic projection).

Ca buguri pozitive la shaman ar fi urmatoarele:

1. https://forum.wow-freakz.com/Shaman-All-Specs-Talent-Stone-Bulwark-Totem-t363676.html

2. https://forum.wow-freakz.com/Shaman-All-Specs-Spell-Stormlash-Totem-t353213.html
Dreadblade spune cam tot ce e necesar.

Pe langa toate acestea, ce as vrea sa precizez, sunt 2 glyhps la shaman CRITICAL de importante si acelea fiind:

1. https://forum.wow-freakz.com/Shaman-Glyph-Glyph-of-Lightning-Shield-t353214.html

2. https://forum.wow-freakz.com/Shaman-Glyph-Glyph-of-Shamanistic-Rage-t345922.html

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/sylvanas/mostfckedup

1007 · Last edited by 1007 on 07-06-2015, 00:45:44; edited 2 times in total

Shocker · Posted: 06-06-2015, 15:02:21 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

O sa tin cont de bugurile cu adevarat importante, nu venite doar din partea celor care vor clasa lor, e bun topicul

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pms · Posted: 07-06-2015, 03:55:49 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Sa se faca o lista cu bug-uri gamebreaking si o prioritizare. Parca s-a mai facut asa ceva (un topic). Daca gresesc, sa ma corecteze cineva. @Shocker

Off: Cand ii vezi cu "buguri cu adevarat gamebreaking"/"prioritate maxima" si isi posteaza doar de la clasa lor, crezand ca e cea mai busita, clar ...

darkworld81 · Posted: 07-06-2015, 10:21:19 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

^Nu a zis nimeni ca e cea mai busita clasa sau alte drame de genul, eu joc DK , nu ma plang de clasa mea, e ok cum merge momentan, am postat si la lock pentru ca stiu cate ceva despre lock si chiar e broken total , nu vezi un demo lock in tot jocul. Kang a spus sa postam CEEA CE JUCAM , bug-uri negative si pozitive. Citeste tot topicul inainte sa postezi ceva si nu fa off-topic.

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As apela la spiritul fair play al fiecaruia sa precizeze in special bugurile pozitive a clasei pe care o joaca dar si pe cele negative care ii afecteaza foarte tare clasa/specu.

david33 · Last edited by david33 on 07-06-2015, 21:32:23; edited 7 times in total

Nu stiu cat de gamebreaking v-or fi considerate bugurile care le listez aici, dar fie:
Divine insight:
https://forum.wow-freakz.com/Priest-Discipline-Spell-Pw-Shield-from-Divine-Insight-talent-t361920.html -se poate juca la power infusion pana e reparat, dar ajuta vs burst comps.

Hit chance on casters:
https://forum.wow-freakz.com/Multiple-Hit-chance-cap-t365317.html

Prayer of mending:
https://forum.wow-freakz.com/Priest-PvP-PvE-Prayer-of-Mending-incorrect-spell-formula-t362282.html

Angel feather si spellurile asemenea:
https://forum.wow-freakz.com/PRIEST-ALLSPECS-Angelic-Feather-t360982.html

Inner focus:
https://forum.wow-freakz.com/Priest-PvP-Inner-Focus-t360836.html

Spellque:
https://forum.wow-freakz.com/Multiple-Spell-Queue-t355216.html

Circle of healing:
https://forum.wow-freakz.com/Priest-Circle-of-healing-formula-t367987.html

Flash heal vs surge of light: (neraportat)
Daca esti mid cast flash heal si iti procuie Surge of light procul dispare cand se termina castul.

Divine star:
https://forum.wow-freakz.com/Priest-All-Specs-Talent-Divine-Star-t350024.html

Mind bender: (neraportat)
Da in jur de 1-2 dmg in permanenta.

Holy word: chatise (neraportat)
Dr cu anumite spells cum ar fi polymorph, trap, blind

Spirit shell:
https://forum.wow-freakz.com/Priest-Discipine-Spell-Spirit-shell-t355649.html

Divine aegis: (neraportat)
In momentul de fata daca dai crit cu un greater heal dai 90k heal si 100k absorb

Void shift:
https://forum.wow-freakz.com/Priest-Discipline-Void-Shift-t360595.html

Spiritul:
Avem formula de spirit de 5.4 cu gear de 5.0 prin urmare se ramane foarte greu fara mana. (Nu stiu daca vorbesc prostii sau nu dar nu se ramane fara mana orice ai face)

Mass dispel: (neraportat)
Nici cu glyph nu da dispel la iceblock/bubble

Guardian Angel: (neraportat)
Uneori se pare ca nu da heal deloc bonus aka dai 30k crit cu guardian angel pe tine, v-oi verifica mai tarziu ce cauzeaza asta.

Cyclone din symbiosis si Holy word sanctuary: (neraportat)
Nu au un school anume si prin urmare daca le dai intrerrupt le poti casta din nou imediat.

Fear vs characters: (neraportat)
Fearu iti teleporteaza characteru in china, greu de explicat, dar daca iei fear te duce in alt loc si nu poti fi atacat.

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Nu stiu bugurile importante la shadow, dar sunt
Daca tot suntem pe la arene, scoateti toate reward de la 2s si le bagati la 3s, titles, items, altfel tot ce ati facut voi sa promovati arenele e un mare ***** la care v-ati pierdut timpul.
Bugurile neraportate pot fi false.
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Arena system importat de pe cata:
Ajungi sa stai 10 minute in que chiar daca sunt teamuri in que si pica intre ele de 4 ori pana intri tu in arena.

Amnezx · Posted: 07-06-2015, 20:24:39 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Pt dk:
necrotic
death coil
pet energy ammount si per energy @haste
conversion vs poly

david33 · Posted: 07-06-2015, 21:16:39 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Amnezx wrote:

Pt dk:
necrotic
death coil
pet energy ammount si per energy @haste
conversion vs poly

Explica pe intelesul oamenilor.
Ai uitat de lichborne si death coil care da 20k heal.

zazarSm · Posted: 07-06-2015, 21:35:29 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=105284 (Nu se stackeaza,De exemplu daca dau crit de 100k cu healing surge imi pune 10k ancenstral vigor.Daca dau riptide de 20k dupa normal ar trebuii sa se stackeze cu primul heal, dar la noi il inlocuieste pe primul si raman stackati doar cei 2k de la riptide)

https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=108287&&name=totemic-projection (Nu functioneaza deloc)

https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=108284&&name=totemic-persistence (Cand pui al 2 lea totem din acelasi element il inlocuieste pe primul, normal trebuie sa poti pune 2 toteme in accelasi timp din accelasi element)

https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=131557&&name=spiritwalker-s-aegis ( Nu te face imun la silence si intrerrupts effects)

https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=55445&&name=glyph-of-cleansing-waters (Nu primesti healu` de cand dai dispel pe target)

https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=58057&&name=glyph-of-totemic-encirclement ( Nu spawneaza totemele fara aure)

Amnezx · Last edited by Amnezx on 08-06-2015, 09:32:07; edited 1 time in total

david33 wrote:

Amnezx wrote:

Pt dk:
necrotic
death coil
pet energy ammount si per energy @haste
conversion vs poly

Explica pe intelesul oamenilor.
Ai uitat de lichborne si death coil care da 20k heal.

Necrotic - absorb ammount https://forum.wow-freakz.com/Death-Knight-All-Specs-Spell-Necrotic-Strike-t347357.html
Death coil - heal si damage https://forum.wow-freakz.com/Death-Knight-All-Specs-Spell-Death-Coil-t348997.html
Conversion sa nu mai scoata dkul din poly. https://forum.wow-freakz.com/Death-Knight-Talent-Conversion-t367292.html
Lichborne nu are nimic
Aaa.. si ams vs fear effects. https://forum.wow-freakz.com/Death-Knight-All-Specs-Spell-Anti-Magic-Shell-t350831.html
Desecrated Ground https://forum.wow-freakz.com/Death-Knight-All-Specs-Talent-Desecrated-Ground-t353414.html

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okief · Posted: 08-06-2015, 09:10:46 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Combat Readiness - nu face stack deloc , nu functioneaza cand esti "strucked / hit by meele" http://i58.tinypic.com/1086zjb.jpg
-ma face foarte vulnerabil vs orice meele class,in close combat. "Die by Sword" al rogeului , varianta mai slaba

+

Bonusul de 2 piese din Dreadful , nu aplica Crippling daca folosesc alt non-lethal poison. E gamebreaking sa am 50% reduced cast time vs casteri , dar sunt limitat sa joc doar cu crippling + wound , datorita acestui "defect" al Bonusului sa nu mai vorbim ca Paralytic Poison ( Talent ) nu poate fi folosit cat timp nu e reparat bonusul de 2 piese.

http://i58.tinypic.com/29qfwgy.jpg

+ ca si overall "bug" sa-l numesc asa , posibilitatea , de a-mi schimba talentele si glyphurile in arena + posibilitatea sa vad versus ce setup joc , face mai intrigant arena in sine.