PvP Scaling - Bug report and Feedback

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Current PvP Scaling Build: v1.0

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Changelog

29.06.2021 - PvP Scaling v1.0 released

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[AlbertsR133]

is it live? cuz there is no buff or something, same stats when i join bg

[Sarah]

AlbertsR133 wrote:

is it live? cuz there is no buff or something, same stats when i join bg

It is live.

PvP scaling doesn't change your stats in any way.

It changes your damage/healing output in relation to the ilvl difference between you and your target(s).

[Cringeson]

I think the damage/healing output could be Tweaked a little more for lower players, Because it almost feels almost non existent while fighting donors.

[trafikz0r]

where can we see a detailed changelog for this PVP scaling ? Like what was changing ...

Join PVP !!

[Fanca]

trafikz0r wrote:

where can we see a detailed changelog for this PVP scaling ? Like what was changing ...

Every change from now on will be added in this topic. So far we haven't made any changes as the feedback is good and nobody has reported any issues yet.

Update @ 01-07-2021, 22:10:52

Cringeson wrote:

I think the damage/healing output could be Tweaked a little more for lower players, Because it almost feels almost non existent while fighting donors.

I think that the scaling coefficient is high enough, with roughly 60% damage increase when comparing an ILVL 379 DK with an ILVL 416 DH (37 ILVL difference). With this amount of scaling %, the lower ILVL has a huge advantage due to not only dealing 60% more damage, but taking 60% less.

Feel free to contact me via forum PM or discord. (Fanca#6164)

[Iplayferal]

I haven't really done pvp in a while and i gave it a try today... I have no clue what scaling you guys did, but a 370 hunter just did a random 80k noncrit on my bis geared druid with 26% versa.... Does it look right to you? Just to make it clear, i didnt had any orb/berserking , neither he (check screenshot).

https://armory.wow-freakz.com/character/warsong/shioni




LE: 350ilvl / 120k HP hunter:
https://armory.wow-freakz.com/character/warsong/huntermatrix

42k aim shots


25k arcane shots


Also he is not taking the dmg that i am seeing on my screen. It shows that i am doing for example 10k and in reality hes taking like 2k or something, while he is doing 20% of my HP with each hit... this must be the worst scaling in the history of scalings. Me as bis geared wasting 15 seconds to kill a guy with 0 gear while he kills me in 4 seconds.... I need to take off my gear to make it fair am i right?

[hbrake]

This is the worst i have ever seen. You just made low ilvl tanks unkillable.

[Iplayferal]

So? What are you guys gonna do about this clown fiesta? Months to look into it? Patches?

[vuanhlam92]

I think sever should turn off pvp scaling, it's the worst thing in pvp bfa retail and they turn off it in shadowland, you can read more negative feedback on that on the forum blizzard. The essence of mmo is that you work harder for more power. I prefer pvp, i don't want to spend a lot of time on m+ and raid, so i donated full character, i don't pay to win, i got high rank rating without donate before. I have many donate friends here, most of them are busy people same as me, don't have much time to farm gear, that's the reason for them to donate to get bis and have relax time in this sever, not because they have poor skill and pay to win, they have stopped playing since pvp scaling on. Right now I have a feeling that more bis gear will be punished more by lower ppl, yesterday i played bg, i got into a fight 1v1 with a warrior 128k HP and he used deffensive stance mode, even though I beat him but it was a hard victory, when i see him only 60k HP left, i am warlock, i used burst with 70k chaos bolt show in my sreen but he only lose 35-40k hp, I feel the damage numbers on my screen are just a joke now. In other cases, a bg with 2 bm hunter around 160 170k hp, i think they just around 380 390 ilvl, they down my HP so fast (i have 315k HP with priest buff) with no brain control pet skill. I feel it's not fair that you spend so much time to get gear or donate but feel weaker, that is absurdif for a mmorpg, it's not esport game. If you want to keep pvp scaling on, I would be happier if damage taken and damage done scaling 5-10% with low ppl, but now I think it's about 40-45% damage on low gear ppl, or pvp scaling only affects with damage taken or damage done, but it's best not to have scaling.

[vouzze123]

Character Name: Voldemorts.
Issue: PvP Scaling and Hunters are broken.
Bug Description: When you go into a BG, the PvP scaling is broken, simple. A hunter with 70k HP and 230 ILVL did 2 million damage with his Aimed Shot, and his auto attack did 40k dmg; broken. I decided to stay in BG with this hunter just for him to showcase the Hunter damage and the results were outrageous, how can a Hunter with no gear and skill 1 shot a 423 Priest? Please sort this out, thanks, the only evidence I can provide is recount, recount is a clear, trusted Addon with millions of downloads and works well, should be able to showcase some of the damage figures, or if it isn't enough, I can try and catch up with the Hunter again and record the whole BG, whatever is best, thanks.
Proof: https://imgur.com/a/NDSKS2m

[vuanhlam92]

vouzze123 wrote:

Character Name: Voldemorts. Issue: PvP Scaling and Hunters are broken. Bug Description: When you go into a BG, the PvP scaling is broken, simple. A hunter with 70k HP and 230 ILVL did 2 million damage with his Aimed Shot, and his auto attack did 40k dmg; broken. I decided to stay in BG with this hunter just for him to showcase the Hunter damage and the results were outrageous, how can a Hunter with no gear and skill 1 shot a 423 Priest? Please sort this out, thanks, the only evidence I can provide is recount, recount is a clear, trusted Addon with millions of downloads and works well, should be able to showcase some of the damage figures, or if it isn't enough, I can try and catch up with the Hunter again and record the whole BG, whatever is best, thanks. Proof: https://imgur.com/a/NDSKS2m

i agree, yesterday mm hunter with 140k HP burst me down 50-60% HP in some sec, im destro lock ilvl 423 and have 315k HP with priest buff, full socket with bis versa+mastery (tanky build), scaling system has too many disadvantages, this is guilde to lvl 20 kill lvl 120, boots 100,000% damage

https://www.wowhead.com/news/rextroy-on-using-pvp-scaling-for-level-20s-to-destroy-level-120-players-318288?page=3

[hbrake]

I think i will just go naked in bgs. low ilvl priest with bis traits can kill anyone 410+ with dots only. 130k tank dk is impossible to kill, you need at least 5-6 players, 70k hunter crits 150k on me, low ilvl tank dh with average healer can`t be killed even with that 10x stacks from flag in wsg. Did u find all of this normal?

PvP on this server is dying and i know every player around feels it. I hoped that 3v3 will be a thing in Bfa, but now i hardly find a team for 2s rated. Outworld PvP is dead AF. almost 8 months into BFA and i play only 10v10 bgs, even if there are a lot of players in que and i guarantee you that over 90% of them want to play 15v15 like arathi basin or deepwind gorge. Don't you find all of this wrong? Didnt you find time in 8 fcking months to solve this? Did u even have a plan?

You lost a lot of players and you will lose more if there are no improvments. At least try to communicate more with players, i am tired of bad evasive answers on discord from bored people from staff.

[vuanhlam92]

Fanca wrote:

trafikz0r wrote: where can we see a detailed changelog for this PVP scaling ? Like what was changing ... Every change from now on will be added in this topic. So far we haven't made any changes as the feedback is good and nobody has reported any issues yet. Update @ 01-07-2021, 22:10:52 Cringeson wrote: I think the damage/healing output could be Tweaked a little more for lower players, Because it almost feels almost non existent while fighting donors. I think that the scaling coefficient is high enough, with roughly 60% damage increase when comparing an ILVL 379 DK with an ILVL 416 DH (37 ILVL difference). With this amount of scaling %, the lower ILVL has a huge advantage due to not only dealing 60% more damage, but taking 60% less.

my ilvl is 184, why does my damage is lower when attack 423 ilvl?, this is a huge ilvl difference 239 ilvl.
I shot him with chaos bolt 22k but only show 20k for him, so lower than 239 ilvl will have lower damage for warlock?
His bladestorm hit me 13k, but show 11k on me, only reduce 15% damage taken, i think it should do 0,5-1k on me with 239 ilvl differrence
This is proof:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=IettfShgruA:

[Amnezx]

vuanhlam92 wrote:

my ilvl is 184, why does my damage is lower when attack 423 ilvl?, this is a huge ilvl difference 239 ilvl. I shot him with chaos bolt 22k but only show 20k for him, so lower than 239 ilvl will have lower damage for warlock? His bladestorm hit me 13k, but show 11k on me, only reduce 15% damage taken, i think it should do 0,5-1k on me with 239 ilvl differrence This is proof: https://youtube.com/watch?v=IettfShgruA:

Because exploit protection is implemented, and several background checks are being made while calculating your scaling %. Also Scaling is working only in bgs, outside of bgs, you're doing the same damage.