[DUPLICATE] [Druid][Feral] Shred damage vs PvP

[Quicksand]

That's from " (2015-03-11): ". It does not

[mojtabazn]

you said

Quote:

Incarnation makes it use as from stealth, that's 50% bonus damage

but the link says it is 20% increase for stealth and never changed later ....

[Quicksand]

The link you posted is from 2015, please stop arguing about that. go to wowhead, check changelog, it has been 50% for quite a while... it's 50% even on retail

[raven3]

From all the videos I've watched I came to the conclusion that shred does here ~50% more damage than it should. Add to this the numerous increases it receives during bursts and we get those insane numbers.

In the video:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=lvBkmFdXbTQ:


at 4:17 the feral hits the other druid - with bleeds up (increase dmg to shred) for 64 594
in ~ the same condition.. here it does ~100k

But a thought came to my mind.
Because I can't find anywhere a pvp multiplier for shred ..
..is it possible that feral autoattack damage is too high here? and it scales incorrectly with Artifact weapon or with attack power?

[Tianton]

Yeah that shred dmg, is busted af. Dunno why btw, but 300k + shred is not normal, when Bite hits for 170k-200k max with blood talon 5 combo and 50+ energry

[Teni]

@ Jade
I did challenge a feral to check shred and indeed is doing more damage , i was doing 84k and your guy like 64k.



@ Quicksand
There might be another problem... is it possible the armor to be too low? Because i just tested on retail, and out of arena i have like 2400+ armor and inside of the arena i have like 2600+, in cat form. On Freakz i have 2k inside and outside of arena.

Also is it possible to be something wrong with the template on Freakz? Because looks like my stats are going really low in arena comparing with the ones from retail, like i see a big difference on mastery, how is dropping from retail comparing with Freakz, also my crit chance is really low in arena on Freakz.

So this is on Freakz:





And this on retail:

[Quicksand]

Stats are COMPLETELY different on 7.2.5 sadly, so you cannot compare.

This was in 7.1.5 on RETAIL: https://gyazo.com/5490686701cc2658ad05e0c9264e8dfe

As you can see, stats are pretty close (iLvl difference but yeah)

Update @ 09-07-2017, 13:49:03

I have a screenshot from EACH and every spec from retail for 7.1.5, I went through them again after the FDK incident, classes have correct templates

[raven3]

Teni wrote:

@ Jade I did challenge a feral to check shred and indeed is doing more damage , i was doing 84k and your guy like 64k.

Hmm.. did you do 84k with rake up? (20% dmg increase for shred on bleeding target)
Cause , If I remember correctly from my time on the ptr .. I was doing in a test on leather target ~85k noncrit without bleeds and ~100k with bleeds.

[Teni]

raven3 wrote:

Teni wrote: @ Jade I did challenge a feral to check shred and indeed is doing more damage , i was doing 84k and your guy like 64k. Hmm.. did you do 84k with rake up? (20% dmg increase for shred on bleeding target) Cause , If I remember correctly from my time on the ptr .. I was doing in a test on leather target ~85k noncrit without bleeds and ~100k with bleeds.

Yes it is with rake up, you can see it in that screenshot.

@Quicksand
Any idea of the stats inside of arena?

[Quicksand]

What do you mean? Those screenshots were made in instanced pvp situations

[Teni]

Quicksand wrote:

What do you mean? Those screenshots were made in instanced pvp situations

Oh... aright. That green grass from your screenshot didn't look like any arena, that's why i was confused. So i guess is from BGs.

[Quicksand]

No, that's from stormwind, PvP training dummy

[Teni]

Quicksand wrote:

No, that's from stormwind, PvP training dummy

Yea that's what i was saying, if you have any screenshot with the stats from 7.1.5 by any chance, inside of arena/bg etc.

[Quicksand]

But why do you need from inside the arena/bg? I'm telling you it is done with the help of a PvP Training Dummy. All templates activate as soon as you touch the dummy, on retail too should I bring proof?

[Teni]

Had no idea there is such thing on retail, i have some screenshots from 7.1.5 on a dummy but it didnt gave me any buff. Is there any dummy on freakz that does not give u pvp buff?